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Keen 5: flashing green arrow + Keen 4: enemy(ies) flashing after shooting

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:09 am
by szemigi
2 things:

1. With a patch is it possible to move the flashing green arrow (from the ending) up or down in Keen 5? (And for Keen 4 and 6 as well?)
2. In Keen 4, is it possible to make enemies (that would take more than 1 shot; if I use such a patch) flash after shooting?

If so, do this as well, no matter how difficult are these. I can wait.

Re: Keen 5: flashing green arrow + Keen 4: enemy(ies) flashing after shooting

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:24 pm
by Nisaba
concerning your first question: if you mean this patch over here:
keenwiki/patch:ready for the next page images than it sure is. you just have to alter the vertical / horizontal location to your liking. it's a bit trail and error but you'll get the hang of it.

Re: Keen 5: flashing green arrow + Keen 4: enemy(ies) flashing after shooting

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:28 pm
by Nisaba
your second request would include additional sprite images, which you have to come up with. just take a look at the item sprite animation graphics. the flashing is made by two images alternating constantly. how many enemies should have this flashing feature?

Re: Keen 5: flashing green arrow + Keen 4: enemy(ies) flashing after shooting

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:13 pm
by szemigi
I tried the next page thing you linked, but it doesn't work. Maybe it's for Keen 4 or 6. For Keen 5 it's missing then I think, but thanks for linking the section.
As for the flashing Keen 4 enemy thing, Levellass will answer, too. She wanted it a few years ago, but no response since that, that's why I requested it here and I'm just waiting.

Re: Keen 5: flashing green arrow + Keen 4: enemy(ies) flashing after shooting

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:59 pm
by levellass
For the flashing enemies thing, it's possible but a difficult thing to do since you have to create a totally new 'when shot' code for the enemies. This isn't too bad if you're making a whole new enemy (Which I guess you have to since in Keen 4 there's no multiple shot enemies that don't recover.) but for just tweaking the original enemies it's much more difficult.

The Keen 5 and Keen 6 ending sequence pages are a lot less researched than for Keen 4. These are the equivalent patches you want:

Keen 5:

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#Display Dark green arrow at 184,298
%patch $EC94 $001AW #Image
%patch $EC98 $00B8W #Vertical location
%patch $EC9C $012AW #Horizontal location

#Display Dark green arrow at 184,298
%patch $ECC7 $001BW #Image
%patch $ECCB $00B8W #Vertical location
%patch $ECCF $012AW #Horizontal location

Keen 6:

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#Display Dark green arrow at 184,298
%patch $E369 $001BW #Image
%patch $E36D $00B8W #Vertical location
%patch $E371 $012AW #Horizontal location

#Display Dark green arrow at 184,298
%patch $E39C $001CW #Image
%patch $E3A0 $00B8W #Vertical location
%patch $E3A4 $012AW #Horizontal location

Re: Keen 5: flashing green arrow + Keen 4: enemy(ies) flashing after shooting

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:12 pm
by szemigi
The enemy flashing thing would only and only affect the Poison Slug, nothing else, as you made a patch, when the Slug takes 40 shots to kill and it shots the slime (just see my Martinez McMeyer episode 4, which is Keen 4 mod).

Re: Keen 5: flashing green arrow + Keen 4: enemy(ies) flashing after shooting

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:18 pm
by szemigi
Take your time to make the Keen 4 flashing enemy patch that affects only the Slug. I wait, I can only say this.

Re: Keen 5: flashing green arrow + Keen 4: enemy(ies) flashing after shooting

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:24 am
by levellass
Ok, do you have the patch you are using to make the Slug take 40 shots? I will need to change that to make it flash, if I can.

Re: Keen 5: flashing green arrow + Keen 4: enemy(ies) flashing after shooting

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:39 pm
by szemigi
There you go:

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#Slug uses Inchworm behavior
%patch $30E92 $10800770RL

#Spawn special Slug slime action
%patch $FE5B $0004W

#Slime spawn height (Higher, in air)
%patch $FE55 $00F0W

#Slug slime heads in Keen's direction = $0004W
%patch $2EE74 $0143W $0143W $0001W $0000W $0000W $0004W $0000W $0000W
              $10800770RL   $09DC1752RL   $11A20CA1RL   $20A8W

#Slug slime moves through the air =$20A8W
%patch $30F18 $0143W $0143W $0001W $0000W $0000W $0004W $0040W $0000W
              $00000000L    $09DC1752RL   $11A20CA1RL   $20C6W
%patch $30F36 $0144W $0144W $0001W $0000W $0000W $0004W $0040W $0000W
              $00000000L    $09DC1752RL   $11A20CA1RL   $20A8W

Re: Keen 5: flashing green arrow + Keen 4: enemy(ies) flashing after shooting

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:18 pm
by levellass
Wait, so what makes the Slug take 40 shots? This just changes how it behaves.

Re: Keen 5: flashing green arrow + Keen 4: enemy(ies) flashing after shooting

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:23 am
by szemigi
Aaah, I managed to dig it up. Here you go:

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#Boss collision, shoot 40 times to win game, else deadly
%patch $FE6A  $55 $8B $EC $56 $57 $8B $7E $06 $8B $76 $08 $83 $C7 $4C $83 $3C
              $03 $75 $1C $56 $9A $0D8F0D43RL     $83 $C4 $02 $FF $06 $CB53W
              $83 $3E $CB53W  $28 $7C $12 $C7 $06 $7A70W  $000DW  $EB $0A $83
              $3C $02 $75 $05 $9A $0B8013E9RL     $5F $5E $5D $CB

Re: Keen 5: flashing green arrow + Keen 4: enemy(ies) flashing after shooting

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:35 am
by levellass
I can't seem to make this happen, and I don't know why. This patch should work:

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#Slug flashes when shot (DOESN'T WORK)
%patch $FE6A  $55 $8B $EC $56 $57 $8B $76 $06 $8B $7E $08 $83 $3D
              $03 $75 $26 $57 $9A $0D8F0D43RL     $83 $C4 $02 $FF $06 $CB53W
              $C7 $44 $42 $0002W  $C7 $44 $04 $0001W
              $83 $3E $CB53W  $28 $7C $12 $C7 $06 $7A70W  $000DW  $EB $0A $83
              $3D $02 $75 $05 $9A $0B8013E9RL     $5F $5E $5D $CB

But it doesn't and I am unable to tell why. My best guess currently is that Keen 4 just doesn't allow enemies to flash in this way, though I'd appreciate it if any other keeners know what might be going wrong here. The closest I can come to is this patch, which makes the Slug flash sprite 318 when it's shot If this is colored into a flash it works.

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#Slug flashes BMP 318 when shot
%patch $FE6A  $55 $8B $EC $56 $57 $8B $76 $06 $8B $7E $08 $83 $3D
              $03 $75 $26 $57 $9A $0D8F0D43RL     $83 $C4 $02 $FF $06 $CB53W
              $C7 $44 $1E $013EW  $C7 $44 $04 $0001W
              $83 $3E $CB53W  $28 $7C $12 $C7 $06 $7A70W  $000DW  $EB $0A $83
              $3D $02 $75 $05 $9A $0B8013E9RL     $5F $5E $5D $CB

This has been very confusing and annoying. I don't know why it won't work. Any suggestions anyone?

Re: Keen 5: flashing green arrow + Keen 4: enemy(ies) flashing after shooting

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:02 am
by szemigi

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#Slug flashes BMP 318 when shot
%patch $FE6A  $55 $8B $EC $56 $57 $8B $76 $06 $8B $7E $08 $83 $3D
              $03 $75 $26 $57 $9A $0D8F0D43RL     $83 $C4 $02 $FF $06 $CB53W
              $C7 $44 $1E $013EW  $C7 $44 $04 $0001W
              $83 $3E $CB53W  $28 $7C $12 $C7 $06 $7A70W  $000DW  $EB $0A $83
              $3D $02 $75 $05 $9A $0B8013E9RL     $5F $5E $5D $CB
This patch works perfectly! I got what I wanted!

This has been very confusing and annoying. I don't know why it won't work. Any suggestions anyone?
But it was worthy to do, because it works. As good as I imagined. :)

(So after I told you the patch works, you can get into the second Spindred, the Keen 5 shootable switch, and the Keen 5 diagonal shoot patch.)