Tile Submission Thread

levellass · Post by **levellass** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:18 am

Ummm, isn't it impossible to mask an animated tile in Keen 1-3?

CommanderSpleen · Post by **CommanderSpleen** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:40 am

That's what I meant when I wrote:Though I don't think masking and animation go together.

lemm · Post by **lemm** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:30 pm

Gusher, top = slippery; all other walls = jump through.

a wallflower. I would set to blocking all around.

shorter grass with optional mask tiles.

Post by **Fleexy** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:12 pm

Here are some brambles, they're hazards:

I'll draw some more tonight when I get home again.

EDIT:

I got home. :)

I really hope we're using bridges, 'cause a mod is a bit boring without bridges. (Though there are good mods without them.) Here's a switch and bridge:

And some fence tiles, ends, gate, broken (pointy, should be dangerous):

And finally a stone blockset with perspective:

Enjoy!

levellass · Post by **levellass** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:21 am

Bump.

We now have the ability to have different tilesets for each level. If we set aside say, a quarter of the tileset for animating tiles (Since animation properties can't be affected.) we can vastly increase the number of tiles we have available. We can combine various ones together (Backgrounds, etc.) and do some really cool stuff.

What do you think guys?

Post by **Fleexy** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:25 am

levellass wrote:Since animation properties can't be affected

WHAT?!?!

lemm better get to work....

It's still amazing though. Are we going to use my tiles?

lemm · Post by **lemm** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:53 am

hehe

Animated point items.
2.5-D. Start off by taking what we have and extend it.

GALAXY caliber backgrounds. Seriously let's go nuts. We have the room.

But the very first thing:

I think we need to go back to the story thread, and map out all the types of levels, and make dead certain what the story is. Once that is done, then it's easier to make themed tilesets.

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Side note about animation

Since you mentioned animation, I *think* I know how the program deals with it (see below).
Two possibilities if you were adamant about replacing tile animation.

1) Modify existing code to load tiles.
2) Write .TLA (Tile Animation) files (4 for every .TLI/.TLG pair) and load those over the existing code.

But yeah, unless we run out of room to put tiles (lol), levellass has the sane solution.

<details>
There seems to be an array [700][4] of short ints. So that's enough room for tile 0-610, in each of four animation frames. If you had a four-frame animation tile:

array[tileid][0] = tileid
array[tileid][1] = tileid + 1
array[tileid][2] = tileid + 2
array[tileid][3] = tileid + 3

and then

array[tileid + 1][0] = tileid +1
array[tileid + 1][1] = tileid + 2
array[tileid + 1][2] = tileid + 3
array[tileid + 1][3] = tileid

etc...

And the game cycles through four animation states (state = 0 to 3, repeat forever), and for each state the tile that is displayed to the screen is array[tilenum][state]
</details>

Tulip · Post by **Tulip** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:35 pm

Fleexy wrote: Are we going to use my tiles?

I like 'em and we have so much room now, I don't see why not.
But seriously, there's now way we should make the broken fence dangerous, it does not look dangerous in any way, and players will certainly think "What the ... killed me there?!"

Post by **Fleexy** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:07 pm

It's sharp...?

levellass · Post by **levellass** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:35 pm

In Dangerous Dace 3 and 4 METAL fences are dangerous (You get impaled on the sharp, spear-like tops) but not wooden ones, it just looks so safe. Maybe if you had some spiky plants or rusted metal... something that looks like you don't want to touch it.

lemm · Post by **lemm** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:59 am

Alright just an update on the tile situation.

Animation can now be changed, and it's even better than the original! You can make four frame loops from any four tiles (that includes repeating tiles). Unfortunately, I don't think masked animation will work.

I think hazards should always have a "die" or "danger" sign next to them the first time the player sees them.

levellass · Post by **levellass** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:17 pm

Masked animation doesn't work, the mask used for the first tile is used for all of them, just like tile properties.

lemm · Post by **lemm** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:46 pm

Pipes... for a mineshaft?

CommanderSpleen · Post by **CommanderSpleen** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:24 am

All these tiles you've submitted are just marvellous, lemm. I think these pipes are best to be saved for episode two though. They'd fit in with the underground theme a lot better.

levellass · Post by **levellass** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:01 am

Hmmmmn... could we rust or slime them up a bit? Like they've been neglected?

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